The Beginning of Agriculture / The Beginning of the Bow
Is it only concidence that the bow came into wide use as agriculture came into wide use? One view is that true hunter/gatherers are gentle egalitarians, seldom if ever warlike, that only after the...
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Mike,I see nothing apart from your conclusion to rebut my point about the distinction between early use of the bow by subsistence farming societies and later city states built by and upon the means of...
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with a newly found skilled labor force wouldnt you expect to see faster ,more dependable bows wouldnt these bows be made at a faster rate? would also information about making the bow spread...
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Sorry for straying from the original agriculture topic, and yes my remarks are speculation and opinion and should be taken as such.As for the beginning of agriculture I would suggest this was also the...
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Hunters have never been pacifists, they make war every time there is a good reason for it. Pacifists cant compete with other groups in this valley of sorrow. Archery came first and agriculture came...
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Mack,In many cultures where conditions for survival are marginal or just close to it, particularly in a poor season, raiding is a time honoured method of restoring your fortunes at the expense of your...
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I just saw this thread, sorry I'm late. I am a north and central american archaeologist, and am in fact working on a publication on the occurrence of the bow in mexico and points south. The situation...
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Rod, " Given who we are disagreeing with I don't find that a particular attractive idea.." An excellent reason to avoid arguements with certain people, don't you think?
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I couldn't possibly say who I had in mind...
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Snedeker,How do know bows came to Mexico so late as about the year 900?Art is not proof of it. You might prove anything with artworks. Mayas had Indian elephants if we are to believe their art.
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snedeker: So it would seems the bow may have originated in one or a few places in the old world, but not independently in the new world. That it got here only by migration, slowly working it's way...
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One of my lecturers specialises in Levantine (middle eastern) archaeology from the stone age. His particular forte is the Natufian Culture, supposed to have been the direct, immediate predecessors of...
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Dave,What is the nature of the evidence for the Natufian bow and is it possible that the Kebarans also used the bow?Rod.
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the Pre-Aztecs and Maya left a sort of history on stone monuments and a few paper documents that survive. All such forms show atlatls and darts, slings, spears, clubs, etc. until the Aztec period...
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Rod: I'm not positive that the Natufian's themselves used the bow, but rather a group that developed from them, with a different material culture, albeit slightly different.I'll do some legwork and...
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Dave,Given that they were both hunting gazelle it seems to me that the bow would be the likely option if it was known at that time and place. Or are we looking at late Abu Hureyra where early cereal...
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"In many cultures... raiding is a time honoured method of restoring your fortunes at the expense of your neighbour..."This is often what primitive-ag tribal-level cultures do, not true h/g band...
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I had a thought on if a bow was first a hunting tool or a weapon. It could have been a matter of few moments that made the seperation. I can imagine the first bowyer taking his first bow out for a...
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Defending territory by fighting becomes more likely when you have a high population density in a clearly defined territory with crops to protect and a stored surplus worth stealing.Smaller low density...
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Tim, I'm already in hot water with the neighbors. A crescent moon celebration may just put them over the edge. Jawgehttp://mysite.verizon.net/georgeandjoni
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Snedeker,You might be right Toltecs were not archers, neither were Romans and Greeks, but like the Europeans Toltecs very likely knew about archery. Urban dwellers usually are not interested in...
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